Medical Marijuana / Cannabis Therapeutics

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101 Responses to Medical Marijuana / Cannabis Therapeutics

  1. Thank you for a great post.

  2. tabathe says:

    i live in hughson, ca. and have received a cannabis card and wanted to know if i could plant my plants outside. i was told that i would have to check the county guidelines for where i live and couldn’t find anything.

    • san_admin says:

      Stanislaus does not have any ban on outdoor growing. The counties that do act to have such a ban in place have the problem that their local ordinances interfere with a right given under state law Health and Safety Code 11362.5 and 11362.77(a), in which the state law allowing 6 mature or 12 immature plants preempts local ordinances.

    • Jared says:

      Just a note of advice for anyone who does decide to plant outside, regardless of any laws or ordinances. Please do not plant in your front yard or anywhere others can see the plants. Many do this and it causes problems with people walking by and helping themselves. While it may souns like common sense, this is an ongoing problem in many counties.

      • san_admin says:

        Good advice. We call that being a good neighbor because you don’t want to cause a nuisance that could call people to rob you or call the police on you. Even if you win in court, it’s expensive and if you’re robbed, that really sucks, as well. Thanks for the comment.

  3. Teri says:

    Hi i am writing u to ask what is the state requirments while growing for person medical needs. what will make it completely legal where if visited by the law i wanna make sure my fiance who has his legal recommendation. I want to make sure his area where he grows his medicen is legal and legit. we do have kids so i need to make sure it is really legit,. please reply with info on all laws and what will be fore sure the safest for my situation thanks and hope to hear from u soon

    • san_admin says:

      If you are in California, you need to make sure everyone’s doctor’s approval is current, that there is not “too much” cannabis or “too many” plants, and that the cannabis is all kept in a secure area, like a locked room, a locked box, a locked greenhouse, a locked fenced-in area of the yard, etc. The law does not require that, but if you don’t want to have a big fight with CPS while your kids are in foster care, make sure that everything is clean and there is no cannabis where they can accidentally get to it. That greatly reduces any risk you might face. Good luck.

  4. Marshall Bradley says:

    Howdy!…..are you aware of what the butte county board of supervisors has just voted in making it impossible for alot of people to grow their own or helping others…..they are calling this a land use issue and not a criminal measure…..doesn’t this fly in the face of 215?…….Marshall

  5. david king says:

    can a convicted felon ever get a medical marijuana card or cultivation license in california

    • warren d says:

      I am a convicted felon and i got my card from the state of calif

    • zig says:

      Yes you can get a card even if you have a felony, my buddy is a convicted felon and he has a card. I went with him when he got it.

    • Danny says:

      You will be able to get a medical marijuana card, but if you are on probation I would be very careful. It is still a grey area in the law.

    • san_admin says:

      Yes, you can. If you are on parole or probation, you may need to get the approval of a probation officer or a judge. Often times they will add a stipulation that you are not to cultivate or to provide to a collective. This sounds like it violates your Prop 215 / SB 420 rights, but technically it does not because you have to agree to the terms of parole or probation, and once you agree not to be allowed access to cannabis, you’re stuck. Sometimes it’s best to address it up front, especially if you want to grow your own. Otherwise unless it specifically bans your use of cannabis, possession of less than an ounce is now an infraction per HS 11357(c) that should not affect terms of parole or probation, but unauthorized cultivation is still a felony. Be careful and good luck.

  6. KENN NADONE says:


    • san_admin says:

      That all depends on whether the charges are federal or what state is making the charges. For example, in federal court a cutting of any height has to have roots to be considered a plant. In California law, propagation even by unrooted cuttings, fits under the heading of “cultivation” and so even taking cuttings or sprouting seeds are considered cultivation, but there are no limits on the number of plants for personal v. commercial use, it’s just based on what seems reasonable to the court. So a few small plants or even a fairly large number, might be considered personal but just a few large plants with a lot of bud on them might seem to be commercial. However, under federal law 50 plants can get you 3 years in prison, 100 will give you a mandatory 5 years, and 1000 plants is a mandatory 10 years, plus there are gun enhancements, conspiracy laws, etc. to destroy your life. The US government is incredibly corrupt and rotten, so don’t mess around with them or Obama will shoot a drone missile at you. Just kidding. Kind of. Until he starts shooting drones at growers, at least.

  7. edward brown says:

    hi i was raided 6/9/11 by a joint Federal task force at my house that i grew up in. they used atf ,dea, ntf … they kicked in all my doors and refused to let us open or give them keys , then they refused to show me the surch warrant or let me phone the local pd…

    i live with 4 member of my coop and they took all of our medicine we are all now going back on our pharmacological drugs for the time being i guess

    i am asking for what ever help or advice i can get.
    tho it looks like many charges are allready being droped , but i want to be perpared and contact u. my contact # 6198699506 edward brown

    • san_admin says:

      Hi, Edward, sorry I just got this message, we get so much spam that we overlooked this one. Is your case still ongoing? Do you have an attorney? Your best bet would be to have your attorney contact court-qualified cannabis expert Chris Conrad, , and talk to him about the situation to see what he recommends. Federal charges are a lot harder to beat, but maybe they will turn it over to the state where you can win in court. There is an important ruling that came out for California, People v Jackson (2012), out of San Diego. It should help you out. Jackson Decision: “As we interpret the MMPA, the collective or cooperative association required by the act need not include active participation by all members in the cultivation process but may be limited to financial support by way of marijuana purchases from the organization.” See .

  8. Edwin Maire says:

    Hello, my name is Ed. My primary doc is scared to “recomend” (Yep, I’m in northern Ca.), even though my records show I meet the criteria easily and HAVE HAD ONE for 8 yrs prior. That Dr. got very ill and after 8 yrs of being my primary dr/pain mgmt group closed her practice. It took a yr to get another doc and he won’t write the recomendation. I can’t afford $200.00 for an appt I don’t need, so I can “be in compliance” legally. I call toro caca. Feels “like a drug deal” Want to be legal!!!

    • san_admin says:

      If your regular doctor won’t recommend but you have good medical records, I suggest you take your records to a discount doctor who will look them over and give you an approval for under $100. There is a place in Vallejo you might try, Alternative Medicine 707-554-1000 . Since I don’t know where you are located, I suggest just doing an online search for discount medical marijuana recommendations and find a place located near you.

  9. Prani Sisopha says:

    All I wanted to know is what the regulation on growing my medical marijuana in medical Rio Linda Ca, I called the local sherif deparment and all they said is look it up, I really would like to know before I move there, Is there anyone that can help me.

  10. Prani Sisopha says:

    All I wanted to know is what the regulation on growing my medical marijuana in Rio Linda Ca, I called the local sherif deparment and all they said is look it up, I really would like to know before I move there, Is there anyone that can help me.

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  12. TK says:

    How can I legitimately be a caregiver for 8 or 9 people without being under the scrutiny of the law

    1. Example. can i grow 96 plants in NV county if i am named caregiver by eight people
    2. what is the maximum amount of prescriptions one caregiver may posess,In NV county
    3. are the growers permits for 99 or less legitimate(i have been informed they are not)
    4. I have heard a recent California law suit pertaining to the amount of medicine one caregiver can legally grow or posess?,( in NV county?)


    i am renting a trailer there is a house on the same property we are both growing cannabis i put up a fence to separate the grows. my worry is that if they are not in compliance w/law can I be in trouble due to there greed?
    any help would be so appreciated.
    thank you

  14. Jaclyn says:

    I want to make smoking marijuana legal for my kids when I have them. I need things to change so my kids can be medicated. My boyfriend and I both benefit from Marijuana and know our kids will too based off genetics. We will pray for a perfect child though. I am so thankful for the rules no and want to advance them.

  15. Shannon peel says:

    Ihav 3 scrips on my propertywe all have scrips hav havyneeded family invalved we all want to be leagal will we be ok

  16. Christopher Franklin says:

    Yes, I have one and was in prison 21 years…So I say spend the $ and get one and get out of pain…..

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  17. sue says:

    My question is when you set up a non-profit organization is there guidelines to every county or is this run by the state, and also if you are growing for a collective how many patients can you grow for and still be legal in tehama county.

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    I have switched to a vaporizer for my medical marijuana needs. I feel that this is much better for me than smoking.

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    Thank you for all you do and all you stand for.

  23. Need to Work says:

    What are the 215 laws about working in a school district as a teacher/patient?

  24. Arizer Solo says:

    I would think a convicted felon would be out of luck.

  25. Tara says:

    This is great having an organization supporting marijuana for patients. I think any person who is sick and needs marijuana to feel better/survive should be perscribed it.

  26. Jeff says:

    I’m a ex-felon. My daughter and her husband grow with a card and have a mobile dispensary. I really need to know if it’s legal for me to live and/or visit with them without going back to prison or causing them to go to prison. Can anyone help me with this. I myself have been clean almost 17 years.

  27. Joe Lopez says:

    Arnt the 215 cards also cultivation license too? As i understand it, one could only cultivate a Cretan amount of plants based on were you live. hopefully those guys in government work this out soon.

  28. QUICK Q says:


    • Painter mike says:

      Concentrates fall under a class 4-5 narcotic charge of health and safety code-last I heard there is a lot of grey area concerning concentrates/ so be cautious and do ur homework on ur local laws-good luck!

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  31. Richard says:

    If they really want to legalize cannabis this year, 2012, I think they must change the wording of the proposition so that it does not use the term “recreational use”. The proposition should state something like “medical marijuana for medical use should be made available to everyone over the age of 21 without a license.” Something like that might work, but I dont think “recreational use” will ever pass legislation. If you agree with this – pass this info on.

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  38. John says:

    I Am a card holder in AZ and will be moving to Calif. Anyone know if I will be able to move my plants with me, if I have my calif card by then.
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    Need some advice… I have my card, two other cards in the house, but the cancer patient does not have a card yet. One of the card holders went to get the family prescription and got pulled over and arrested for over legal amount. They want to through the card holder in prison….wtf Any advice?

    • san_admin says:

      There are lots of issues here, the key point being whether the quantity was “reasonable” and whether there are indications of any sales to non-patients. If the amount is reasonable, the 8-ounces limit does not apply. If there were sales to non-patients, the medical defense might not apply. The cancer patient should get their recommendation right away and have the attorney argue that the condition already existed at the time of the incident, so there is a legal alternative intent (medical use) to the other charges, but if s/he doesn’t get a doctor’s approval that won’t help. The law says you need a doctor’s approval, not cancer, so you still need to get them a recommendation. There are two court rulings you need to cite, People v Kelly and People v Jackson. You might also need to argue the Jones defense, but this is legal stuff mostly for lawyers to sort out. To read more about these cases, check out this link. . If you have an attorney, which you should if someone has been arrested, have them contact Chris Conrad using the information on that website. Good luck.

  46. Dallan J. Zubia says:

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    • san_admin says:

      Unless he or she is on parole or probation, it makes no difference. There is general agreement that the doctor has to be a California physician, but the patient does not have to be a resident. If he or she is on parole or probation, they may need to get a judge to make a record that it okay for them to use cannabis for medical purposes.

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    Under California law you can grow any “reasonable” amount and patients can grow together. Local ordinances might restrict the amount and location where you grow, and the courts have not ruled on whether these are binding or not as long as they have civil instead of criminal penalties. Under the AG guidelines as cited in People v Colvin and People v Jackson, California patients and caregivers may possess an amount in aggregate proportion to the number of patient members. The problem is that everything has to appear “reasonable” and it’s a cop who hates marijuana users who is the first person to make the call, so they rarely say anything is “reasonable.” So, in short, yes you can do that but everyone has to be a qualified patient, there should be some kind of membership arrangement, and the whole thing has to be “reasonable” in its amounts. So be careful how you proceed and you should be fine.

  51. san_admin says:

    You can carry it around California as long as the amount is “reasonable” for your trip. For example, if you buy a supply and are driving home to store it, you can have at least 8 ounces. If you are driving around with 8 ounces in your car on your way to a party or a music festival, the cops and court might not think that is reasonable because you didn’t need to drive it with you, you could have left it home. The case on point here is where a young man who lived at home was told by his mother that he could not store it at the house, so he kept it in his car until he got pulled over. Then the court ruled that the two ounces he had did not need to be in his car at the time, so he got convicted of transportation. Meanwhile, Pebbles Trippet had three pounds of shake in her car, got convicted and the Appeals court overturned the conviction. So basically you can travel within the state with a relatively small amount or a larger amount if there is a good-enough “reason” for having the amount you have (e.g., it’s for more than one patient, it’s being taken home for storage, it’s enough for an extended travel, etc.)

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